Matt. The Book of Mormon provides another testament of the reality of a designated place called hell, where the wicked are consigned. 22:13) that awaits the wicked? Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The. Second, it is the permanent location of Satan and his followers and the sons of perdition, who are not redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Smith told a general conference audience: I think I am safe in saying that no man can become a Son of Perdition until he has known the light. In Mormonism, it depends. 5:30). That last part of the previous sentence is very important. For those born in this life, the person must be a former member who knew Mormonism was true but still rebelled and went against the truth while still knowing it was true. Also, the whole thing about Daughters of Perdition. 4. The Book of Mormon contains one reference to outer darkness. What is it? (See D&C 76:2835, 4448.) If he were ignorant, he could not have become perdition. 15:2830). 10 reasons why a person ought to consider becoming a Christian. 20:1315). Later in the same discourse Alma blended the doctrines of the Fall, agency, and the second death together as an admonition to keep the commandments of God (see Alma 12:3137). Severe punishment for eternity, reserved for Satan and his demons as well as the sons of perdition, those humans who once embraced Mormonism and left to fight against the faith, even though they knew Mormonism was true. The word hell is mentioned twenty-three times in the New Testament: fifteen times in the Gospels, twice in the book of Acts, once each in James and 2 Peter, and four times in the book of Revelation. The sinner must deal with the self-created gulf on his own, with the help of the Savior and his Atonement. Over the 30 years in Christian ministry, I have met many former Mormons who once believed in Mormonism, but none has ever confessed that they still believe Mormonism to be true. In the parable of the wedding of the kings son, the king discovered that a guest was not properly attired in the required wedding garment, i.e., righteousness. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. Even if I did, I still am not eligible for outer darkness. Okay, so Cain, we have one guaranteed person according to no citation whatsoever. 2. The Book of Mormon does not teach the doctrinal truth that hell will end for the majority of those who suffer in the spirit prison prior to being resurrected and entering the telestial kingdom; however, this truth is clearly taught in the Doctrine and Covenants (see D&C 76:3638, 106). The kingdom that is not a kingdom of glory is called outer darkness. Even the most evil of people, including Adolph Hitler and those of his ilk, appear to have a place reserved for them in nothing less than the telestial kingdom. It is doubtful if even Judas, who betrayed Jesus, was sufficiently enlightened to become a son of perdition (Gospel Doctrine,p. 545). Add an RSC shortcut to this device's Homescreen, In the menu, scroll past any icons and tap. When the king asked, "Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?" the man was silent (Matt 22:12); therefore, the king said: "Bind him hand and foot, and cast him into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then, I say unto you, they shall be as though there had been no redemption made; for they cannot be redeemed according to Gods justice; and they cannot die, seeing there is no more corruption (Alma 12:13,1618). So there you go, the souls who end up in Outer Darkness are clearly apostates, or not. If their Prophet wrote in a journal, or said to someone in passing, or gave a talk a local school saying that, Eating toast without butter is a sin worthy of hell! that does not make it a Mormon Doctrine. 20:6). And, if you havent come into relationship with the Jesus of the Bible, I encourage you to do some homework and meet Him. Jesus warned that those who mocked their brothers by saying Thou fool were in danger of hell fire (Matt. 40 talks in 40 days for General Conference, Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mormons believe that there Prophets are fallible and in no way perfect. They did what they did with their eyes open, and were in rebellion against God. . Usually, when one is going to hell, the unspoken caveat is unless they repent. Meanwhile, I have known many who could be considered fighters against the church, including those who became involved in what could be considered anti-Mormon activities. So a heads up, this does not include you or any one who has ever been or will be born on Earth. The third use occurs in the parable of the talents: "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 25:30). True, some former Mormons have expressed doubts and wondered if the church might possibly be true, which is a completely natural response after having left the one true church. If they decided they made a mistake because they still believed the church were true, they would be more apt to rejoin it rather than stay excommunicated and fight against it. Banishment from the presence of God. Samuel also confirms the relationship John spoke of between the second death and the wicked being cast into fire, but he adds this explanatory clause: For they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness.. The first three are referred to as the three degrees of glory, often compared to the sun, the moon, and the stars ( D&C 76:70, 78, 98 ). The "authority" to marry a man to one wife is not the same as the "authority" to marry a man to more than one wife. Alma 40. They knew better but still chose wrong, one told me. And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment (Mosiah 2:3839). One of these guests, however, appeared without the proper wedding attire. Okay so clearly we have billions of souls who qualify as perdition and go to outer darkness according to one prophet in his personal books and not officially speaking as a prophet. Bad as they may suffer, and awful as their punishment may be, they are not among that group which is to suffer the eternal death and banishment from all influence concerning the power of God (Conference Reports, October 1958, 21). Return to the Crash Course Mormonism Index. 9:16) after the final judgment. While John could be referring to the sons of perdition in this passage, the specific sins he identified are characteristic of those who will suffer in hell but, after experiencing their part in the lake of fire, will be released from their torment and be resurrected to a telestial glory (see D&C 76:10312). and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell (James 3:6). Your email address will not be published. The first three are referred to as the three degrees of glory, often compared to the sun, the moon, and the stars (D&C 76:70 . Joseph Fielding Smith who said that this class is composed of all who have known the power of God in this mortal life and then, having full knowledge of the power and purposes of God,rebel against him, putting Jesus Christ to open shame (Doctrines of Salvation 2:219-220. The question is, what exactly does full knowledge entail? Salvation is release from the guilt and power of sin through God's gift of grace. It clarifies how using an obscure quote does not define LDS doctrines or dogmas. The Book of Mormon speaks of only two groups who inhabit the postmortal spirit world: the righteous, who exist in a state of happiness called paradise; and the wicked, who are consigned to outer darknessthe wicked being those who have been captivated by the devil and who will be resurrected to an endless hell. And I said unto them that it was a representation of that awful hell, which the angel said unto me was prepared for the wicked. Its just Scary bad. [2]. 9:710, 19, 26). 11:3940; 18:13), pains of hell (Jacob 3:1112; Alma 14:6; 26:13; 36:13), chains of hell (Alma 5:7, 910; 12:11; 13:30; 26:14), child of hell (Alma 11:23; 54:11), powers of hell (Alma 48:17), everlasting hell (Hel. The righteousness of some (Abraham or Lazarus) cannot erase the consequences of anothers sins (the rich man). Women or not. Yea, and it bringeth to pass the condition of repentance, that whosoever repenteth the same is not hewn down and cast into the fire; but whosoever repenteth not is hewn down and cast into the fire; and there cometh upon them again a spiritual death, yea, a second death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness. Pingback: The Shunning Key by bwv549 - Mormon Bandwagon, A Son of Perdition is: Therefore repent ye, repent ye, lest by knowing these things and not doing them ye shall suffer yourselves to come under condemnation, and ye are brought down unto this second death (Hel. 2. [4] Augustine, The City of God, trans. Marcus Dods (New York: Random House, 1950), 781. In addition, Alma defined the second death as dying as to things pertaining unto righteousness. These individuals are chained down to an everlasting destruction and are subject to the will of Satan. Wilford Woodruff in a meeting with the apostles, 1893 D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997) p. 795. The terms spiritual death or second death, lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness are all synonymous with hell, and all are descriptive of both the temporary and the permanent hell. There are ten references to the lake of fire and brimstone in the Book of Mormon. outer darkness. The Prophet Joseph Smith would not countenance the teaching of this doctrine, and sanctioned the decision of the bishop that any who taught it should be barred from communion (The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 125). 5:22), as were those who failed to cast away their sins (JSM 5:34; cf. The followers of Satan who will suffer with him in eternity. Mormons believe we existed before coming to Earth. Nephis commentary to his brothers concerning his fathers dream of the tree of life adds interesting insight into the possible meaning of the great gulf Jesus referred to: And I said unto them that it was an awful gulf, which separated the wicked from the tree of life, and also from the saints of God. . The second death is a second separation from God, not because of Adams transgression (the first death) but because of ones own failure to repent of personal sin. Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming . New Testament [ edit] 14:1519). 185 Heber J. In contrast, Book of Mormon references to the second death are embedded in sermons that teach it in context with other essential elements of the plan of salvation. Twenty-nine times the word hell is used with descriptive modifiers, for example, depths of hell (1 Ne. GOSH. 9:1012, 1516). Making the LDS Church Slightly Better: A Members Wish List, You continue to fight against the true church, Those spirits who rebelled against God in the preexistence are the original sons of perdition. and they were judged every man according to their works (Rev. We believe that after the final judgment there are four places to which a person may be sent. While some apparently have taught that these spirits could be restored to a kingdom of glory, 12th President Spencer W. Kimball said this wasnt true: In the days of the restoration there apparently were those who taught that the devil and his angels and the sons of perdition should sometime be restored. To the Church in Smyrna the Apostle John wrote: He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death (Rev. The Book of Mormon teaches that only through the Atonement of Christ can one escape the damnation of hell. Jacob testified that without the infinite atonement all mankind would be forever subject to the awful monster, death and hell, and thus would become like the devil and his angels (2 Ne. 14:18.) Think along the lines of a religious leader serving God but the opposite. 2:8-10) Jesus' atonement provided immortality for all people. John did not define the second death other than to make it synonymous with the lake of fire and brimstone that awaits the wicked. Yet I an certainly exempt from outer darkness, no questions asked. As soon as you define doctrine in a way that includes wikipedia, get back to me. The manual Gospel Principles sheds additional light: There is no forgiveness for them, for they denied the Holy Spirit after having received it. For example, Alma the Younger was delivered from the intensity of his hellish pain when he cried to the Lord for mercy. And the definition contains all of the pre-mortal spirits who followed Lucifer, which would imply that God created a lot more male spirits than women spirits and maybe thats why there was a war in Heaven. 1:13), gates of hell (2 Ne. Sorry ladies, you cant actually apostatize from the church, I guess (Someone tell Kate Kelly her excommunication is not valid!). That Satan rebelled against Christ and God the Father and was cast out with all of Satans followers and will not receive a body. (The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 125). So apostates from the church are clearly included in this list. And as such I would qualify. Other sources used in composing this topic: http://en.fairmormon.org/Plan_of_salvation/Sons_of_Perdition/Can_women_be_%22Sons_of_Perdition%22, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_darkness#Usage_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement, http://en.fairmormon.org/Plan_of_salvation/Sons_of_Perdition/Eventual_fate, http://emp.byui.edu/satterfieldb/quotes/Sons%20of%20Perdition.htm. Source: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/gs/sons-of-perdition. ). Many of the apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Another name for Outer Darkness is hell. When I was Mormon, I was taught that in order to be sent to Outer Darkness (I'm a woman, that will be relevant in a second) you had to have an UNMISTAKABLE KnOwLeDgE of Christ, and then turn your back on God and deny him. An in depth look at the Mormon doctrine of hell. Doctrine and Covenants / Pearl of Great Price, Mormon Objections to Christian Evangelism, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church, Why Practically NobodyIncluding You, Former MormonWill Ever End up In Outer Darkness, Divine Love in the Fathers Plan (Dallin H. Oaks, April 2022). Sons of Perdition are to be cast out with the devil and his angels into outer darkness. Banishment from the glory of God. If Lucifer had not known the effects of his rebellion, how would he ever become perdition? Outer darkness is a eternal place of torment reserved for those who are "sons of perdition." According to LDS scripture, this will be a place that "where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth" (Doctrine and Covenants 101:91; also see 133:73). One must be on a high eminence to fall so low; and few in worlds history have attained such a height. Latter-day Saints understand hell to be a literal place and/or stateeither the temporary hell in the spirit world where the unjust suffer in a state of torment until they are resurrected to a telestial glory (D&C 76:8185, 98112), or the permanent hell where the wicked (the sons of perdition) continue to suffer eternally after the resurrection (D&C 76:37, 4548). The second possible sons of perdition are mortals. (To see the differences between the three kingdoms of glory, click here.) It is true that the only mortals who had once been members are eligible to become sons of perdition, a fact that may worry some former Mormons who wonder if they might be destined for outer darkness. Unless someone has rejected love, like the Nephites, I believe there is still hope that they will repent. So, in conclusion, I would have a hard time believing that you or billions of souls as you put will qualify for perdition even while taking Mormon beliefs into account. Yet I never was baptized and confirmed into this church. The wicked, or in this particular context, the sons of perdition who are filthy still after judgment and resurrection, are assigned to everlasting punishment (see 2 Ne. Satan and his followers are beings of spirit who were denied bodies and cast out of heaven during pre-mortal existence (see Plan of Salvation ). He also saw a pale horse with a rider whose name was Death, and Hell followed with him (Rev. . Just one rebellion. In this context, outer darkness is the spirit prison, or that part of the spirit world that the wicked inhabit prior to their resurrection. Mormon Doctrine Lecture, #2, Brigham Young University, 1967.). 21:8). Possibly but there is no citation there either. So I found one, by Joseph F. Smith, Thus we see that the first death which came into the world is also the last death which shall be pronounced upon the sons of perdition. They will live in eternal darkness, torment, and misery with Satan and his angels forever. Provo, UT 84602 This is full on rejection of God. Did I really have full knowledge? Thus ensued the War in Heaven, which resulted in Satan and his followers being cast out of heaven and denied the opportunity of receiving a physical body. Even the wicked of the earth who never knew the power of God, after they have paid the price of their sinningfor they must suffer the excruciating torment which sins will bringshall at last come forth from the prison house. For many are called, but few are chosen." Hmmm.. I doubt whether it can be found, from the revelations that are given and the facts as they exist, that there is a female in all the regions of hell. Brigham Young Journal of Discourses 8:222. By taking 2 Nephi 2:25 to its logical conclusion, we learn that Satan also fell that men might be, and that they might have joy! The Book of Mormon provides another testament concerning the existence of hell, and explains how one can escape the chains of hell in this life, and an everlasting hell in the next life, through application of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. Circumcision. . spirit prison. Clean and Unclean what about that 1/3 the host of heaven who didnt follow Gods plan Joseph F. Smith was so sure qualify as Sons of Perdition were NONE of them women? Conclusion The Book of Mormon text confirms the truth of New Testament teachings on hell, second death, lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness. They go too far, and the Spirit leaves themYou cant renew them to repentancyou cannot save them. (Joseph Smith Jr., King Follett Discourse). Your generous support makes the work of MRM possible. 23:15). [1] See also Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2nd ed. A) Most humans B) Satan C) His angels D) Sons of Perdition. There are two categories for those who should be considered sons of perdition. Those who must suffer with Satan for the deeds done in mortality will go with him into outer darkness. To become a church member, baptism and confirmation are required. (Selections of Doctrines of Salvation, p. 462. How unfair is this scenario? Jacob taught that the lake of fire is not a literal fire but a figurative representation of torment: And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy are the devil and his angels; and they shall go away into everlasting fire, prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever and has no end (2 Ne. 20:1314). ABCs of Science and Mormonism now available in Print from Amazon! Note the Book of Mormons addition of the words is as. Publishing, 19871989), 4:227228. 12:22; Morm. But the children of the kingdom [i.e., covenant breakers] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. They will not have access to the Holy Ghost or Heavenly Father or Jesus. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. [Discourse given on 20 January 1895.] 1. Those mortals who did join the LDS Church in this lifetime must fit the following criteria to be classified as a son of perdition, with a destiny to outer darkness. Making the LDS Church Slightly Better: A Members Wish List. Gregory A. Boyd, Paul R. Eddy Across the Spectrum: Understanding Issues in Evangelical Theology pp285 2009 "For example, how can hell be a place of outer darkness (Matt. WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL ANGELS WHO ARE INCAPABLE OF SINNING. The apostle John saw the final judgment and wrote of the destiny of the wicked: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Because of their disobedience, these spirits ended up not receiving bodies, a necessary ingredient to progress to mortality and be qualified for one of the three kingdoms of glory. John the Revelator heard Christ proclaim that he possessed the keys of hell and of death (Rev. (To see his baptism for the dead record and other temple work done for him, click here.). Because reasons. 22:13) if it is also a place of perpetual fire (Matt. Jesus also referred to outer darkness in two parables he gave during the last week of his life. Therefore the Lord used Satans evil acts to accomplish his own purposes. 23:33). This is a place very close in nature to the biblical hell. Also, Mormons believe in three Heavens. In this parable, a king arranged a wedding for his son, but the normal guests did not come; therefore, the king sent his servants to gather guests from off the street. Those who have never received the light are not to become Sons of Perdition (Conference Reports, October 1958, p. 21). Following this introduction will be a discussion of the usage of these termsfirst in the New Testament, then in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon presents several significant insights concerning the lake of fire and brimstone of which John spoke. This is the second death. In the parable of the talents, the returning lord instructed that the wicked and slothful servant who hid his talent in the earth be cast into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. [3]. Those who followed Lucifer in his rebellion in the premortal life and those who in mortality sin against the Holy Ghost are sons of perdition. See Michael Hicks, Joseph Smith, W.W. Phelps, and the Poetic Paraphrase of The Vision, Journal of Mormon History 20 (Fall 1994) 2: 63-84 for discussion of authorship of this poem.). He had a sure witness of the Lord and willfully chose to follow Satan instead. Christians have debated for centuries the nature of the hell fire of which Jesus spoke (Matt. This objection is inconsistent since Mormonism teaches that Lucifer's demon forces, which are clearly destined for "outer darkness," make up one-third of God's "children" (Bruce R. McConkie,Mormon Doctrine, p. 195). What qualifies a person to be a Son of Perdition? Jesus declared that this exalted city would be brought down to hell (Matt. The Book of Mormon discusses with great clarity the ultimate punishment reserved exclusively for the sons of perdition, or those who are filthy still (2 Ne. With the exception of those who left the church and later rejoined, every other former Mormon left the church because they believed it is not true. King Benjamin and Alma also use the word as to preface their reference to a lake of fire and brimstone (see Mosiah 3:27; Alma 12:17). 8 - 14 are for safety. According to Smith: It is very clear in the Doctrine and Covenants Section 76:30-37, that the only persons who will be completely overcome by this dreadful fate are the sons of perdition who go with the devil and his angels into outer darkness. (Answers to Gospel Questions 5:107-108). Jacob identified death and hell as temporal and spiritual death. 9:16), unquenchable fire (Mosiah 2:38), and hell fire (3 Ne. kingdoms of glory. To look closer at this possibility, lets break humans into two categories: 1) Those who have never been Mormon; 2) Those who are or once were Mormon. These pains are similar to the state of suffering experienced by the ungodly who after mortality are assigned to hell. 3:12), the tares are gathered and burned in the fire (Matt. Source: https://www.fairmormon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/What_is_Mormon_Doctrine.pdf. This is a place very close in nature to the biblical hell. [DS 2:225.] https://www.mormonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Outer_Darkness&oldid=27067. A lot of people wanted a source on that. In the rest of the article, were going to have to assume that Mormonism is true (of course, I dont think it is!) Clearly you dont know what is and is not doctrine, and are trying to throw shade. This page was last edited on 17 September 2010, at 20:26. I said: I dont know and he said, How can I find outI just called Spencer Kimball and he told me he didnt know either. 13:42), the fire that never shall be quenched (Mark 9:45), where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched (Mark 9:48), and cast into the fire (Luke 3:9). Even if a person had once been a Latter-day Saint, Kimball said it still was practically impossible for a human to become a son of perdition: The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file to commit such a sin (Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 123) (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, p. 161). What is Outer Darkness? Another manual states, Baptism is the first saving ordinance of the gospel (see Articles of Faith 1:4). Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming. Thank you! While this is true, please define Mormon Doctrine before saying I did not quote Mormon Doctrine. (You are not one of those spirits since you have a mortal body.). A church manual reports, To become a son of perdition one must sin against the Holy Ghost, but before that is possible, one must receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, 2001, p. 161). Ellipsis mine). D&C 133:73 says, These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Humans who never heard about Mormonism will not go there, as tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith said, That is a punishment that will not come to those who have never known the truth. And thats why men alone get, I mean need the priesthood. But behold, the resurrection of Christ redeemeth mankind, yea, even all mankind, and bringeth them back into the presence of the Lord. Yea, Alma wrote, I did remember all my sins and iniquities, for which I was tormented with the pains of hell (Alma 36:13). And if they be evil they are consigned to an awful view of their own guilt and abominations, which doth cause them to shrink from the presence of the Lord into a state of misery and endless torment, from whence they can no more return; therefore they have drunk damnation to their own souls. A representation of the tree degrees of glory and outer darkness. This isnt something like going out and breaking their rule of no drinking. Whether Christians have believed hell to be literal or figurative, the New Testament metaphor of an unquenchable lake of fire has conjured up for believers in the Bible harsh images of souls consigned to never-ending punishment as recompense for their evil deeds done while on earth. In a general conference talk, Joseph Fielding Smith further explained that. Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce R. McConkie have rejected the idea that those in perdition can ultimately be redeemed, which contradicts Brighams speculations. It also teaches that the Atonement ransoms humankind from physical death through the resurrection and from spiritual death, or hell, through repentance. The phrase first occurs in Jesus' comment concerning the faith of the Centurion of Capernaum: And I say to thee that many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven: But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Please note that FAIRMormon states it is not doctrine on the website.
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