Its gotten very stale now. Sure, its not perfect, we all have a nitpick here and there, but as long as it has a message, it revolves around people, and some cool science stuff, its trek to me. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. She also revealed some of her inspirations for this version of Tilly: There is a little Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender in there. :). Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. New episodes ofStarTrek: Discoverypremiere on Thursdays onCBS All Accessin the U.S. andonCTV Sci-Fi Channelin Canada, where its also available to stream onCrave. To even suggest that is stupidity writ large. I personally have battled weight issues all my life since high school and when I am eating healthy and trainng hard, I feel great and can do almost anything (power skating, fast hockey, tons of physical activity) meanwhile the opposite is true when I let myself go (and that does happen). All are different. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. advantage. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Is Tilly leaving Star Trek: Discovery? Mary Wiseman's fate - HITC I realize there are people who like his quirks. You are correct, it comes down to the same thing, poor plot development. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. (But then she has always reminded me, her looks and bubbliness, of my cousin who just so happens to be a wonderful teacher. It is not OK to be overweight. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. And yeah the Full Circle stories do sound a bit depressing especially since SPOILER ALERT they kill off Janeway in them! After all, it DOES seem as though Tilly is gone from the crew for the time being. Story: With . New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. Like maybe he would be way too codependent or something? Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. His Voyager appearances were also horrid. But admittedly, its pretty close. And I just really love having Janeway back. Episodes will be. Michelle Yeoh, considerably smaller in physical stature, probably weighs around 90# [because she is allll muscle]. But its the elephant we have in the room, these days. This is why Discovery is polarising and this is why people four seasons in still dislike Burnham and Tilly as characters. I keep reading she shouldnt be in Starfleet because she is socially and emotionally immature. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman and David Ajala Dish and Discuss As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. The problem is, very deep into his 80s, and theres still chatter about him playing the action hero. That sort of thing contributes to some pretty hardcore dysmorphia sure, they are famous and have luxuries and money so many of us dont, but hearing stories like how Carrie Fisher was told she should lose weight to be able to reprise Leia, or how Kumail Nanjani is scarily fixated on his physical appearance now is sad. Harry wasnt annoying. Heaven forefend women feel good about themselves! Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. 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They should have tried to make Tilly more credible first. Star Trek: Discovery streams exclusively on CBS All Access in the United States and is distributed concurrently by CBS Studios . I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. Or are you only a troll if you criticize something about Discovery? Neither she nor anyone else with common sense is celebrating obesity. Just grow up and ignore the random internet comments you are elevating the drama of this internet troll thing by talking about it. Star Trek Discovery boss explains surprise season 4 exit - Digital Spy Star Trek: Why Tilly & Burnham Are Discovery's Best Friendship She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. That however does nothing to mitigate the way Burnham has been written to be unforgivably self-absorbed throughout many of the key moments of the series. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . I just hope now that she has been made captain, all her baggage will be finally gone. And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? She gets up in the morning and lives with a purpose, helping her crewmates, and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice if necessary. Her character of Cadet Tilly in Star Trek Discovery is warm and positive. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. I recall when Trek featured a French captain with an English accent. I'm finding Star Trek Discovery to be incredibly dull and childish. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. Took time to reset the franchise. That could be it. I would not say it isnt a valid creative decision to try this approach, especially in an age where we are emphasizing the need for self-care, its just not to my taste. It's mostly the super-hero genre where you see this. If that scene reflects something she regularly incorporates into her real-life, then I think she will be just fine and she can tell the haters to go pound salt. You can start with those or the later books in the Time to sequence without significant confusion. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. The entire point of Tillys character is that shes a Starfleet officer that doesnt have to be a supermodel like so many Trek characters before: Troi, Seven, TPol, Jadzia perfect golden cut supermodels. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! And it all happened OFF SCREEN! Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. It has also been speculated that Wiseman may be moving over to the proposed Starfleet Academy show openly discussed by Alex Kurtzman and Paramount+ execs but not yet officially ordered as a series. Tons do, yes. At the other end, underweight is also unhealthy and associated with other risks, but gets less negative attention in entertainment. When all evidence points to her character not being loved or even liked (the actress is fine; shes been poorly handled by the writers (Michelle Paradise). Although it is true that on *average*, overweight people are less healthy than other people, it is also entirely possible to be overweight and healthy. We want people to get their facts from reliable health sources, not celebrities, so saying actors should be sending some sort of fitness message is just backwards. I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. But it would seem to me that it might ought to be standard practice to have a Betazed on the bridge on all starships if those stills were so needed. 42 comments so far. Well, Renos really more engineering. Shes a badly conceived written and conceived character theyve desperately tried to bolster. I could watch Tilly all day! She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. And Tilly is the Trekkie. She only graduated from SA herself at the end of season 1. What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. Its good to have ALL type of people/stories in our Star Trek Universe. Where I live people compete on the merits. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. It just came to me and wanted your opinion. I tried watching Star Trek Discovery but can't anymore. I find it to be No probably not. Mary Wiseman: Right, when you use empathy for evil, its manipulation. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. Right!? It makes sense there would be and that they be a part of the medical team. And second of all, just to dig into it, you dont always get to see a woman like me in that sort of position. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. At the end of season three, I felt that she became captain not because she had earned it, but because the time had run out on the series plan for her promotion. The Relaunch Litverse books for DS9 are uneven in my reading experience as compared to the TNG and the Voyager books once Beyer took over. But was it not made pretty clear that Counselors had become a regular thing on command crews in the TNG era? I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. Ive seen people here and on other message boards body-shame Ms.Wiseman, and its disgusting. As an officer shes supposed to be leader. For me I love how it deals with social logic as well as technology. You know, like a psychotic murderer? As an actor of 20 years myself I can say for SMG that her acting ability is affected by her accent and delivery due to her accent . I for one have always had to watch my weight and I still wage the battle to this day. Just like every other character in a show that generally is badly written. David Ajala: I would be very dangerous. Wait I havent watched season 4, nor will I ever after the stupidity that was season 3 But now shes a leader at the academy?! Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. My personal opinion is, if you see ribs in their low decolletage, they are probably not so healthy. She never wouldve made it through the Academy. So when Tilly became a teacher I was like, freaky coincidence but perfect!). Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. I like seeing her in the series and like knowing that girls who are considered chunky by their teen or tween peers will know they can become something special and respectable, even if they dont have the ideal Hollywood body type. Although criticism of a performance is valid (Burnhams whispering, over emoting etc.) Where are they!? And if youre able to use that against someone, that could be very, very dangerous. Do I want to be Barclay or Harry Kim? Obesity and overweight are associated with health chronic issues by definition. KevinB: I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is.. Most actresses on TV, if theyre 58 probably weigh 120# or less. Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. I dont think youre ready for that kind of interaction, online, or anywhere else. When I was around 12 I used to eat peanut butter and drink Ensure, a meal replacement drink, before I went to sleep. That promise was fulfilled in last weeks season finale, and Wiseman is talking about her return. And Id add she has a hero complex too always wants to save the day/galaxy/whathaveyou. Promoting her to the first officer was stupid enough, but now shes leading at the Academy? Anyway it was just a thought. Being encouraged to eat only what ones body needs is another thing entirely. I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Overweight and obesity are a leading health risk identified by the World Health Organization. No spoilers in case I ever decide to actually the write the thing, but youd love it as a DS9 fan. And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. Gee, so some Trek fans can be @$$holes. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. And, yeah, I've also heard a rumor about a potential Starfleet Academy series, and I'm assuming it's being set in the future setting of Discovery. Barclays ticks do get really annoying. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. Please back up your statement. I admit, has been a roller coaster between each season. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. Its 2020 and were taking any more of your sh!t. Sorry TM, its MY fault! Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. Wiseman possess voluptuous hourglass shaped figure. My preference would be to set it post TUC but quite frankly any other established era would be fine. And Im even more embarrassed by this, but Ive never watched any of the Stargate shows. She is a real girl. Actually, the production team is not helping either. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. They seemed to only be limited by what that particular script called for that week. Well second most after Burnam , she was fine in season 1 and 2.past 2 seasons theyve rushed her character developmentsame with michael.the vulcan minded human became human real fast. The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. Its all pretty subjective. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. Its not SMGs fault of course, its just the way she has be written throughout the series. Let it die. She is most recognized for her roles in the science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery on Paramount+, where she first played Cadet, then Ensign, and finally . each series has traditionally had someone that acts as a way to explore the inner humanityie spock, data, odo, doc/seven. Smart doesnt mean competent. I think the CW has been using something like this for years. Mary Wiseman: That experience affects her so much this season. The accent is too colloquial.
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